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2017-03-02 16:26
Theresia I would be interested to know how other people use this site.

What settings do you use? How many problems do you do per day? Do you do them quickly or slowly? How many of them have you forgotten? How do you choose the problems that you practice?

2017-03-02 16:39
ndbgo 50 problems per day, in groups of 20 reviewing, or groups of 5 new. Usually 50 is about what I can do in a day, during holidays I can do a lot more (300-400 a day). My initial selection was by level: first all problems of level 1, once I mastered those (pretty quickly :-) add the problems of level 2, etc. I've dropped that method in favor of Darrell's method: all Basic Course problems, then all Joseki Step-by-Step. When I'm done with that (probably in a week or so) I'll go back to selecting by level. What I usually do is select *a lot* of problems in my study set, so that I have about a 100 new problems waiting, but only choose "New" to study when I have no backlog and less than 50 problems a day scheduled for upcoming days.

I try to do all problems reasonably quick, to develop my sense of shape. My average is about 2-3 problems a minute. Some problems require more thinking/reading, but my guess is that I never spend more than a minute thinking about a problem. If I then end up with the wrong answer, and I don't understand the correct answer, I usually go back to the lecture.

I'm not sure how many I forget in the course of practice, that statistic is not visible anymore in the charts, but I would guess a few percent every day.

2017-03-02 17:14
ndbgo Correction: I see in the graph that about a quarter of all problems I've studied in the past 3 months are in the "learning" phase, instead of reviewing. Since I'm not adding a lot of problems lately, that means at least half of that is because I've forgotten them :-(.

2017-03-02 22:05
Theresia Since you see a forgotten problem at least twice in the learning phase, you have to divide the number of learning problems that do not come from new problems (at least) by two to get the number of forgotten problems.

2017-03-03 00:00
Dyonn I do at least 130 per day, and I do them quickly.
I very rarely click forget, but I did change a setting so that they come round quicker.

I started with the Josekis, then did Basic shapes and the basic course and endgame

2017-03-05 19:59
pck > What settings do you use?

Settings: 50/18/25/25 problems per button, 10m/24h/48h 1.7/0.3/0.3

> How many problems do you do per day?

Problems per day: 2017: 250, 2014: 7.5, 2015: 4.9 :-)

(I'm a user since 2009 ... I spent a whole evening in 2016 to figure out how to reset the SRS times ... accidentally clicking "good -> 48 months" or "hard -> 24 months" was getting ridiculous.)

> Do you do them quickly or slowly?

I do most problems rather quickly.
Occasionally I try to predict two additional moves for a batch of 50 problems.
Also I sometimes examine variations or different move orders after solving the actual problem.

I do them VERY slowly when watching go streams on twitch.tv ... and I don't recommend doing both at the same time. :-)

> How many of them have you forgotten?

Almost all, but it's easy to re-learn things quickly even after longer go breaks.

> How do you choose the problems that you practice?

Currently I have 1100 joseki, 300 (=most) life and death, 180 middle game, 90 shapes and a few other problems.
I look for lectures that I can apply in my games, or that seem like a good exercise, or just are fun-to-watch.

Recently I added 4-4 Joseki 5+8 follow-ups because the familiar-looking position came up in one of my games, and I could already apply the lesson in my next games. (And Yoon YoungSun explains well and picks great pro-game examples.)

Before that I added the Small-Pig-Snout, 4-5-6 and Carpenters Square problems, because they sound like a great reading exercise.
(What are good reading lectures outside of the life-and-death section?)

I heard about the small-pig (as three-legged-stool?) a long time ago, knew some expected results, but not the specific variations.
Thanks to the problems I finally remembered how to play correctly and get a ko in a game.

I think I never had a Carpenters Square on the board in my entire life (because I play large knight enclosures incorrectly) ... let alone one without liberties ... but as an exercise it's great.

The 4-5-6 lecture is also nice, but unfortunately I tend to memorize some answers that I should be reading out.

2017-03-06 19:48
Dyonn I think memorising is fine. Sometimes I have seen things that I've learned come up in games, and I think "I know this!" but I'm not confident, so I read it out , just to be sure.

2017-03-07 04:33
cook777 Theresia, you have not told us your answers to these questions. Your name has been noticed on top of the Leaderboard. :)

I just started 14 days ago, so take what I say for whatever that is worth.

I have 1510 'new' problems and growing. What I have now just started doing is the "quick look" problems, after I finish a video with problems. Then add them to my problems, and think "who knows when I will see them again". I found the problems to be a lot more beneficial than I had thought they would be. Hope they keep adding problems to past videos.

Q: What settings do you use?
A: Default.

Q: How many problems do you do per day?
A: Half of the days I have over 60, then other half I have over a 100. I got carried away with new problems. I'm looking at the chart to get better at that. Rather spend more of my time watching videos at this point. (And doing the "quick look" after.)

Q: Do you do them quickly or slowly?
A: Sometimes, sometimes no. Depends on how I'm feeling, to be honest. I don't really want to do them fast without reading because I don't do that in my games. When you can look at a problem, and you think, if anything works it HAS to be this move, (because I can see the others are wrong) it's hard to not just click there. (I don't normally have this issue but I do on this site for some reason.)

Q: How many of them have you forgotten?
A: More than I like. I removed endgame because that was way too much forgetting how much endgame moves is worth. Most of my problems are the L&D corner things. Looks like I unknowingly chose the hardest ones then worked my way down. (except I've not started on the Carpenter's square.) I wouldn't recommend the order I did them in. So far those L&D problems are the ones I'm forgetting. I look forward to when more of the other content gets blended in.

Q: How do you choose the problems that you practice?
A: I choose the ones I watched the lecture to. (Unless it's way too easy. I don't see the point of adding DDK problems.)

Anyways, any criticism or advice is welcomed.

2017-03-07 15:38
Darrell Malick Cook777: I strongly recommend only adding one problem set at a time to your "book." Having over 1500 New problems means you are not getting problems in a coherent order. It's up to you, of course, but I have over 6600 problems in REVIEW now and that's my advice. Absorb one lecture at a time. When New reaches zero, add another one.

2017-03-08 04:54
cook777 Darrell Malick: Thanks, this seems to be better. I removed all problems and started over. I also have more control over the order things get added as well.

2017-03-08 09:35
Darrell Malick You're welcome!

2017-03-08 13:17
Theresia My settings at the moment are 10min/2h/48h, 20 at a time (however, 2h problems come up again after 10 minutes as well, anyway). I usually do all the problems that are due which, at the moment are around 200 per day. However, since I make mistakes in a lot of them (about 2 or 3 per 20) and I quickly push them through the 10 minute learning cycle more than once, I might do 250 to 400 problems depending on how many I forgot that day. I try to do problems that I have last seen weeks ago more slowly.

I try to get them down to 150 due per day now because then I will do them less quickly and not make so many mistakes. However, I really love to do new problems which interferes with this goal.

I first did the basic step-by-step course and end game, life-and-death things that I find relatively easy. I cannot really warm up to the josekis, so now I mostly do Opening training, Middle game training and Typical mistakes. For josekis, I have recently started to use the pattern search to find things that came up in my games and then add those problem sets because I am actually motivated to learn them.

My general goal is not to do a lot of problems per day but to have mastered a lot of problems by which I would say that I still remember them after 30 days including the reasons for the moves. Ideally, one would have all problems on this site activated with a one year period and do 30 per day without mistake.

Just a remark to cook77: While I agree that you should add one problem set at a time to your new problems, I advice against removing all your learned problems. A problem set that has been deactivated for several months, but is not new is very inconvenient to add again because you can only add all the problems at once despite the fact that you need to relearn them.

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